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MPs defy pressure to reform their expenses
MPs yesterday defied calls
to tighten up their muchcriticised
£24,000 "second
home" expenses, despite
growing public anger after
a succession of scandals.
They voted down the
findings of a Commons review
that would have
stopped them buying new
kitchens, TVs and other
household goods from the
so-called "John Lewis list".
It means MPs will still be
able to spend £400 a month
on food shopping without
receipts and claim for items
up to £25 without any proof
of purchase.
The vote, by 172 to 144 - a
majority of 28 - also means
MPs' expenses will only be
internally audited, rather
than face tougher checks
by an outside body.
North-East and North
Yorkshire MPs who voted
to keep the second home allowances
included Dave
Anderson, Roberta Blackman-
Woods, Nick Brown,
John Cummings, John
Greenway, Sharon Hodgson,
Kevan Jones, Phil Wilson
and Iain Wright.
The proposed shake-up -
to replace the additional
costs allowance (ACA) with
an annual £19,600 accommodation
allowance, plus
£30-a-day for subsistence -
was an attempt to restore
public trust following the
Derek Conway scandal.
It emerged in January
that over three years, the
Tory MP paid his son, Freddie,
more than £40,000 as a
parliamentary researcher,
despite him being a fulltime
student in Newcastle.
There was further anger
when husband and wife
Tory MPs Sir Nicholas and
Ann Winterton claimed
£21,600-a-year to "rent"
their second-home - even
though they had bought the
flat outright and transferred
it to a family trust.
However, there were criticisms
that the new system
would have allowed MPs to
claim almost as much as
they do at present, but with
much less embarrassment .
Furthermore, because of
recent Freedom of Information
rulings, the public
will be able to see details of
all major purchases made
from the "John Lewis list".
The Members' Estimate
Committee's recommendation
for new offices was approved,
potentially increasing
the annual bill for MPs'
constituency offices from
£2.8m to £6m.
Earlier, MPs did bow to
public pressure - and a plea
by Gordon Brown - by
awarding themselves a
below-inflation pay rise of
2.25 per cent this year.
They also agreed to link
future pay increases to
those of a basket of public
sector workers, ranging
from senior military officers
and judges to doctors,
dentists, teachers and police
officers.
It means MPs will never
again decide their own pay,
amid general agreement
that allowing them to do so
has become a public relations
disaster.
The votes came as a relief
to the Prime Minister who
had urged MPs to show restraint
as an example to
public sector workers, some
of whom are threatening to
strike over pay.
A rebel bid to give MPs a
£650 "catch-up" payment
for each of the next three
years was heavily defeated,
by 224 votes to 123.
The payments - worth
about 4.4 per cent in total -
were recommended in an
independent review, which
decided MPs' salaries had
fallen behind comparable
professions. They currently
earn £61,181.
A separate attempt to
raise pay by 2.3 per cent this
year, but defer any aboveinflation
addition until
next year, was also rejected,
by 196 votes to 155.
8:02am Friday 4th July 2008
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CommentPosted by: Peter Dolan, Newton Aycliffe on 8:41am Fri 4 Jul 08
172 voted for keeping their unaccountable expenses unchanged and out of that number 149 of them are from the union supported party, New Labour with 21 Conservatives and 2 Independants. While they inflict means tested benefits on the old and needy they are allowed to vote on their own pay and expenses which allows them to purchase what they want with no restrictions or accountability to anyone, ROLL ON THE NEXT ELECTIONS FOR PARLIAMENT and vote out those on the list.
172 voted for keeping their unaccountable expenses unchanged and out of that number 149 of them are from the union supported party, New Labour with 21 Conservatives and 2 Independants. While they inflict means tested benefits on the old and needy they are allowed to vote on their own pay and expenses which allows them to purchase what they want with no restrictions or accountability to anyone, ROLL ON THE NEXT ELECTIONS FOR PARLIAMENT and vote out those on the list.
Posted by: g.maud, stockton on 9:48am Fri 4 Jul 08
Why do MP's need a wage, they get &400/month for food, free travel,and in effect free housing & furnishings.
I wish as an OAP ,I had £400/month to spend on food.[quote]quote[/quote]
Why do MP's need a wage, they get &400/month for food, free travel,and in effect free housing & furnishings.
I wish as an OAP ,I had £400/month to spend on food.
quote
Posted by: J Bennett, Durham on 10:17am Fri 4 Jul 08
I would like to see the names of all those MPs who voted yesterday to leave their expenses unchanged. Where can I find this information? I am especially keen to know what position was taken by Helen Goodman.
I would like to see the names of all those MPs who voted yesterday to leave their expenses unchanged. Where can I find this information? I am especially keen to know what position was taken by Helen Goodman.
Posted by: Graham, Teesside on 12:13pm Fri 4 Jul 08
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Posted by: Peter Dolan, Newton Aycliffe on 12:54pm Fri 4 Jul 08
Our area is well represented by those voting to keep their perks,
Roberta Blackman-Woods (Durham, City of),
Nick Brown (Newcastle upon Tyne East & Wallsend),
Stephen Byers (Tyneside North),
Alan Campbell (Tynemouth),
Ronnie Campbell (Blyth Valley),
David Clelland (Tyne Bridge),
John Cummings (Easington),
Bill Etherington (Sunderland North),
Sharon Hodgson (Gateshead East & Washington West),
Kevan Jones (Durham North),
Phil Wilson (Sedgefield),
Iain Wright (Hartlepool),
These are the people we think represent us in Parliament but voting in this manner points to them representing themselves.
Our area is well represented by those voting to keep their perks,
Roberta Blackman-Woods (Durham, City of),
Nick Brown (Newcastle upon Tyne East & Wallsend),
Stephen Byers (Tyneside North),
Alan Campbell (Tynemouth),
Ronnie Campbell (Blyth Valley),
David Clelland (Tyne Bridge),
John Cummings (Easington),
Bill Etherington (Sunderland North),
Sharon Hodgson (Gateshead East & Washington West),
Kevan Jones (Durham North),
Phil Wilson (Sedgefield),
Iain Wright (Hartlepool),
These are the people we think represent us in Parliament but voting in this manner points to them representing themselves.
Posted by: IAN SADLER, DARLINGTON on 1:04pm Fri 4 Jul 08
[quote][bold]J Bennett[/bold] wrote:
I would like to see the names of all those MPs who voted yesterday to leave their expenses unchanged. Where can I find this information? I am especially keen to know what position was taken by Helen Goodman.[/quote] You can see how they voted on http://www.guardian.
co.uk/politics/2008/
jul/04/houseofcommon
s1. Helen Goodman voted for the reform package. Darlo MP Alan Milburn didnt vote at all !
J Bennett wrote:
I would like to see the names of all those MPs who voted yesterday to leave their expenses unchanged. Where can I find this information? I am especially keen to know what position was taken by Helen Goodman.
You can see how they voted on http://www.guardian.
co.uk/politics/2008/
jul/04/houseofcommon
s1. Helen Goodman voted for the reform package. Darlo MP Alan Milburn didnt vote at all !
Posted by: A Williams, Stockton-on-Tees on 1:27pm Fri 4 Jul 08
Lets not forget those Mps who were to cowardly even to vote, hoping we don't notice their failure to vote for MPs expenses reform.
Lets not forget those Mps who were to cowardly even to vote, hoping we don't notice their failure to vote for MPs expenses reform.
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